Coaching For Interims
”Wisdom From The Field” are interviews with skilled interim ministers, hosted by Reverend Jim. Coaching For Interims empowers interim ministers to lead with creativity, authenticity and boldness for the thriving of their ministries.
Episodes
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Discerning a Call to an Interim Ministry Position - Rev. Philomena Hare. Episode 52
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Are you thinking of becoming an intentional interim minister? Veteran Intentional Interim Minister, Rev. Philomena Hare reflects on why she chose to take this step, how it’s going for her, and some of the surprises along the way.
Getting clarity that interim ministry is for you – questions to ask yourself
Beware trying to discern in isolation
Why having a community of practice is so important
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
One of the basic sources of frustration and tension between interim ministers and parishioners is when their expectations are misaligned. One sign of this is when you, as the interim minister, find yourself wanting more for the congregation than they want for themselves. It can easily happen, and in such a case, then, it’s essential to discern what the congregation really wants. Veteran Interim Minister, Rev. Philomena Hare, speaks to this in this episode titles, “Setting Expectations: What do you want me to do during the interim time?”
Figuring out what the congregation wants (It may not be what it appears to be.);
Signs that expectations are misaligned;
Do they really want an interim?
The Interim’s job isn’t really to prepare them for their next settled pastor…
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
We pastors know that “showing up” to our parishioners is essential to building trust, but what counts as “showing up” in their eyes may be different from what we think it is. Listen to veteran interim minister Rev. Henry Schoenfield speak to the importance of “showing up” when beginning with a new congregation, and how he knows when they experience him as “showing up.”
What I find most helpful at the beginning;
The stories people tell about their stories;
Showing up! And how to know your parishioners think you are.
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Accompanying people during liminal times (in-between) times can be very anxiety inducing. But that is what Interim ministers do - by definition. Savvy interim minister and trained spiritual director, Henry Schoenfield, speaks to why he chooses to serve as an interim minister, offers guidance for minimizing anxiety, and relates how liminal times also contain potential for growth!
Walking with people during liminal (in between) times;
My WHY for serving in interim ministry.
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Saturday Jul 22, 2023
Change and transition inevitably create anxiety. Rev. Henry Schoenfield, a skilled interim minister and a trained Spiritual Director, offers several spiritual practices for centering people in Spirit and calm.
Setting up spirituality groups;
Helping parishioners to experience & understand how/when the Spirit is speaking to them;
Examples of spiritual discernment practices.
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Do you struggle with understanding your congregation’s financial reality? Or, as a colleague lamented: “What can I do if I don’t have any financial training?” Rev. Erica Avena speaks to this issue in this episode titled, “Understanding Church Financial Documents without Any Training.”
My method for understanding the
financial realities of a congregation even though
I have no formal financial training;
How to promote financial transparency;
Promoting greater financial understanding
within the congregation.
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Managing Staff During the Interim Time - Rev. Erica Avena. Episode 46
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Interim ministers are often confronted with difficult staff issues. Listen to how seasoned Interim Minister, Rev. Erica Avena, manages staff challenges.
Going in with an open agenda;
Knowing which problems can be fixed and which can only be managed;
Letting the congregation know up front what you’re willing to do and not willing to do;
Dealing with a staff problem the lay leadership has been avoiding;
Process tips for terminating an employee.
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Contracting As an Interim Minister - Rev. Erica Avena. Episode 45
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Good contracting – laying out specific agreements with the congregation before you start working together – is essential to a successful ministry. Yet many interim ministers settle for mediocre contracts that don’t serve them so well. Seasoned interim minister, Rev. Erica Avena, offers valuable insights in “Contracting as an Interim Minister.”
Building interim training / continuing education into your contract;
Key contractual differences between interim and settled positions;
Doing a self-inventory: what do I need?
IRS commuting cost allowance for interims.
Thursday Jul 20, 2023
Thursday Jul 20, 2023
The decision to sell the church building is complex and often gut-wrenching. It can also lead the congregation into new life! Thoughtful and savvy transitional interim minister, Rev. Dr. Todd Yonkman, who walked with a congregation through just such an experience, put it, “It was the shift from ‘The church is falling apart,' to 'The church is falling open.’” An inspiring story of a church that sold its building and joined the community.
An inspiring story of a church that sold its building and joined the community;
Shift from, “The church is falling apart,” to, “The church is falling open;”
Wisdom about the twists and turns of a building sale;
The shift from a downsizing to a restart;
Selling a building is highly context dependent;
Renovating the building without reconnecting with the community is futile;
Thursday Jul 20, 2023
Thursday Jul 20, 2023
Many communities of faith are largely composed of one racial group. Some of them say they want to be more multi-racial or multi-ethnic but don’t know how to get started given the apparent lack of diversity in the community surrounding the congregation. Thoughtful and innovative transitional interim minister, Rev. Dr. Todd Yonkman, describes the hopeful journey taken by a church he served, in “Shifting from a White-dominant ministry model to a multi-ethnic one.”
It was a white church with people of color in it, rather than a truly multiracial multicultural model.
The message shifted from, You're welcome if you come to, we want you here.
Racial justice work and church vitality work are, in my approach, connected; they go together.
Whatever town you are in, there are people of color there that you can build authentic relationships with, and you can do this work!
You know the relationship is authentic when you're inviting their stories and experiences to change you also.
Granby Racial Reconciliation;

Coaching For Interims
Coaching For Interims provides best practices and quick help. "Wisdom From The Field" are interviews with skilled interim ministers, hosted by Reverend Jim. The mission of Coaching For Interims is to Empower interim ministers to lead with creativity, authenticity and boldness for the thriving of their ministries.




